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Plant-based Meat Substitutes Getting Better

https://www.digitaltrends.com/cool- tech/impossible-burger-2- jorgedeclaro01/10/19
Damn, why stop at bacon? Synthetic muktuk. Keto people wil phosita01/10/19
Taco Bell is getting veggie options ready this year. The wr whatnext01/10/19
I had one of the Beyond Meat burgers this weekend. With superttthero01/10/19
Good to know....hope they can make fried chicken equivalent. mrlollipop01/10/19
quorn - these guys' chicken nuggets are actually pretty damn captain01/11/19
I'd be interested in getting this if it's ready for retail. wutwutwut01/11/19
Given how ecologically catastrophic traditional pig farming chicagojoe01/11/19
I think you are probably right. But still wonder what they wutwutwut01/11/19
Quorn is the king of fake (white) meat. Their fake chicken a sexbro01/11/19
Bug based foods are the future. Cheap. Low environmental imp secondcareerlawyer01/11/19
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zA FA-hamZ0 bcls01/11/19
our corporate cafeteria offered samples of the Impossible Bu williamdrayton01/11/19
"there will never be an adequate substitute for bacon" Le superttthero01/11/19
You don’t know that. Who knew 10 years ago they would be a jorgedeclaro01/11/19
super t - I said nothing about the long term health effects williamdrayton01/11/19
Annoying quip: the red juice that we see in red meat is not superttthero01/11/19
Thanks. I'm also a bit bugged by people thinking it's blood wutwutwut01/11/19
This would be fantastic news from a health and environmental chicagojoe01/11/19
Mmmmmmm Soylent Green! walkingparadox01/11/19
Why not just eat real meat? You do know that the most recen massivemissive01/11/19
A lot of the people into this now are just trying to lower m superttthero01/11/19
Recent studies - heck, try 35-40-60 years ago. http://cit wutwutwut01/11/19



jorgedeclaro (Jan 10, 2019 - 10:01 pm)

https://www.digitaltrends.com/cool-tech/impossible-burger-2-taste-test-ces-2019/

Which is good news. Although they tried to say the original Impossible Burger and Beyond Beef were as good as real beef when real meat eaters didn’t agree.

I think bacon will be the key. Once you can perfectly replicate bacon with plant-based protein, then it’s all down hill from there.

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phosita (Jan 10, 2019 - 11:23 pm)

Damn, why stop at bacon? Synthetic muktuk. Keto people will go ape for it.

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whatnext (Jan 10, 2019 - 10:06 pm)

Taco Bell is getting veggie options ready this year. The writings on the wall. Fast food sees the future and it is likely meat substitutes.

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superttthero (Jan 10, 2019 - 10:47 pm)

I had one of the Beyond Meat burgers this weekend.

With mayo, lettuce, tomato, ketchup, mustard and cheese... it was a tasty burger.

Unlike a meat patty, however, I wouldn't enjoy it by itself.

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mrlollipop (Jan 10, 2019 - 11:20 pm)

Good to know....hope they can make fried chicken equivalent....

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captain (Jan 11, 2019 - 3:31 pm)

quorn - these guys' chicken nuggets are actually pretty damn good.

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wutwutwut (Jan 11, 2019 - 7:35 am)

I'd be interested in getting this if it's ready for retail. The current veg burgers pretty much suck.

But the author takes as given that this one is more eco-friendly than and I wonder if that automatic assumption is accurate, without having any notion of the processing gymnastics the company has to go through to get this product "right".

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chicagojoe (Jan 11, 2019 - 12:42 pm)

Given how ecologically catastrophic traditional pig farming and cattle ranching are, I think that's a more than fair assumption.

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wutwutwut (Jan 11, 2019 - 5:06 pm)

I think you are probably right. But still wonder what they have to go through to make it good enough to pass for real.


I remember in the early 2000s everyone just naturally assumed cloth diapers were better for the environment than disposables. Certainly very little landfill waste is created as they are only tossed if worn out or after the kid transitions to pants.


But once the overall loading of additional chlorine into the environment (moms don't like skid marks), the difficulty in removing chlorine by-products from waste water at most city facilities, the increase in water and energy usage were all taken into account, the environmental impact picture became a lot less clear.

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sexbro (Jan 11, 2019 - 8:55 am)

Quorn is the king of fake (white) meat. Their fake chicken and fake turkey rule.

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secondcareerlawyer (Jan 11, 2019 - 9:52 am)

Bug based foods are the future. Cheap. Low environmental impact. Very high reproductive cycle.

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bcls (Jan 11, 2019 - 10:45 am)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zAFA-hamZ0

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williamdrayton (Jan 11, 2019 - 11:36 am)

our corporate cafeteria offered samples of the Impossible Burger - I was impressed despite being an avowed hater of "veggie burgers".

unfortunately when they added it to the menu they charged 9 bucks (including a handful of fries if that makes a difference).

there will never be an adequate substitute for bacon- the layer of fat from the pork belly is indispensable. even beef bacon is kind of meh. most turkey bacon is an abomination because it's just scraps of meat pressed together and cured - there's no "turkey belly"

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superttthero (Jan 11, 2019 - 11:39 am)

"there will never be an adequate substitute for bacon"

Less chance of colon cancer and heart attack is a good substitute.

I dont think these meats have to be perfect substitutes to have a place in people's diets. We, and me in the past specially, eat too much red meat and too much fat. They are very close to an adequate substitute in my mind.

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jorgedeclaro (Jan 11, 2019 - 12:27 pm)

You don’t know that. Who knew 10 years ago they would be able to make a plant-based burger that can bleed?

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williamdrayton (Jan 11, 2019 - 2:04 pm)

super t - I said nothing about the long term health effects of eating bacon-I'm talking strictly about taste and texture

and true, there is no "perfect" substitute but there's noting even anything passable for bacon - unlike ground beef, chicken breasts and some other meats that have been replicated.

having said all that, I enjoy Godschall's turkey bacon - but I accept it on its own terms and still crave the "real thing"

Jorge - yes, the Impossible Burger people did create some kind of protein that looks like blood (it does not "bleed" LOL) - I thought it was unnecessary but I'm not the product manager. anyhow, I think that's far afield from recreating a pig's belly fat.

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superttthero (Jan 11, 2019 - 3:40 pm)

Annoying quip: the red juice that we see in red meat is not blood but myoglobin which is generally not found in blood.

The more you know.

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wutwutwut (Jan 11, 2019 - 5:07 pm)

Thanks. I'm also a bit bugged by people thinking it's blood.

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chicagojoe (Jan 11, 2019 - 12:40 pm)

This would be fantastic news from a health and environmental standpoint.

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walkingparadox (Jan 11, 2019 - 3:19 pm)

Mmmmmmm Soylent Green!

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massivemissive (Jan 11, 2019 - 3:44 pm)

Why not just eat real meat? You do know that the most recent studies have shown little correlation between sat fat intake and serum cholesterol.

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superttthero (Jan 11, 2019 - 3:50 pm)

A lot of the people into this now are just trying to lower meat consumption, not cut it out.

At least for me, incorporating this kind of stuff just gives me more options.

Cholesterol is just one aspect (with dubious effect as you say). There are also issues with colon cancer, inflammation, and the caloric bombs of certain high fat meats.

I would never go full vegetarian, but appreciate the moderation this helps bring.

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wutwutwut (Jan 11, 2019 - 5:13 pm)

Recent studies - heck, try 35-40-60 years ago.

http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.549.6029&rep=rep1&type=pdf


Check table 1 which lists hundreds of studies over the years having people load their diets with cholesterol.

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