Celebrating 10 years! 2007-2017

My kind of socialist, aging rockstar edition

Some knucklehead broke into John Mellencamp's house. Mellen toooldtocare02/08/19
He sucks, imo. plumber02/08/19
did you think Johnny Cougar actually lived in a little pink williamdrayton02/08/19
Hey-don't forget the Benedict Canyon mansion, right by Bever toooldtocare02/08/19
you do realize there was a time before they were rich rock s johnsmith02/08/19
Ayup. Seymour, Indiana, population 15K or so. wutwutwut02/08/19
I know that Cougar and the Boss grew up working class proles williamdrayton02/09/19
I don't know of a single socialist who would say one should onefortheteam02/09/19
"I don't know of a single socialist who would say one should wutwutwut02/09/19
Socialism makes a distinction between productive assets such onefortheteam02/09/19
Sweden, Norway, Switzerland, etc. are not socialist countrie dingbat02/09/19
yeah that's what I said. Agree. onefortheteam02/09/19
Good on them. They made their riches creating intellectual p onefortheteam02/08/19
Will never understand his appeal... actionbronson02/08/19
http://www.tribtown.com/2019/02/08/ police_man_broke_into_joh wutwutwut02/08/19
John Lennon was different from his persona: money obsessed, schopenhauerx9902/10/19
glad he got shot kenco02/10/19
Murdering him made him a cult. schopenhauerx9902/10/19
toooldtocare (Feb 8, 2019 - 9:38 am)

Some knucklehead broke into John Mellencamp's house. Mellencamp describes himself politically as “You probably don’t wanna have this conversation with me, but here’s the deal: I don’t trust the government. I don’t trust the Democrats. I don’t trust the Republicans. I’m a little bit more Democratic than I am Republican, but really I’m a socialist. And that’s where it’s at.”

The house in question:
The main house is 10,000 square feet, with 30-foot ceilings featuring hand-painted murals, according to his contractor’s website. There’s a recording studio and pool as well as tennis and basketball courts.

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plumber (Feb 8, 2019 - 9:48 am)

He sucks, imo.

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williamdrayton (Feb 8, 2019 - 12:50 pm)

did you think Johnny Cougar actually lived in a little pink house or had a scarecrow with blood on it?

working class hero Bruce Springsteen owns a horse farm in Colts Neck, NJ with a full-time staff.

google real estate values in Colts Neck - LOL

do as I sing, not as I do.

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toooldtocare (Feb 8, 2019 - 12:55 pm)

Hey-don't forget the Benedict Canyon mansion, right by Beverly Hills. Although to be fair I can't find any quotes calling himself a "socialist".

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johnsmith (Feb 8, 2019 - 1:51 pm)

you do realize there was a time before they were rich rock stars, right? I would not be surprised if Cougar lived in a pink house in a small town growing up

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wutwutwut (Feb 8, 2019 - 4:19 pm)

Ayup.

Seymour, Indiana, population 15K or so.

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williamdrayton (Feb 9, 2019 - 9:31 am)

I know that Cougar and the Boss grew up working class proles. It's just kind of funny to still carry on the persona years after living in the trappings of wealth.

Michael Moore gets really agitated when asked about the disconnect between personal wealth and prole public image

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onefortheteam (Feb 9, 2019 - 9:55 am)

I don't know of a single socialist who would say one should not have the right to proper from their own intellectual property rights. Sounds more like you're trying to pigeonhole these individuals into your own preconceived ideological box.

All socialism really means is that the government serves the needs of the people, which is better than what we have now where our government predominately serves the needs of the ultra wealthy and special business interests

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wutwutwut (Feb 9, 2019 - 11:41 am)

"I don't know of a single socialist who would say one should not have the right to prosper from their own intellectual property rights."

I don't get this statement. Maybe you mean some watered-down version of socialist?

Under socialism, property belongs to the society as a whole.

The author, artist, composer, etc. retains the right to be known as the creator, but does not own any other type of intellectual property in the work, nor can she control the distribution of the art or book or whatever. The state has control over distribution of the product.

Of course, to incentivize creation the state can decide it will reward the creators, even handsomely. But if it's truly socialism, the creators are not control of distribution. So whether they "prosper" or not has nothing to do with them or demand for their product. Whether or not they prosper is controlled by the state.

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onefortheteam (Feb 9, 2019 - 3:53 pm)

Socialism makes a distinction between productive assets such as buildings, factories, and mass transit and personal property. Intellectual property (specifically music) would fall under personal property of non productive assets. I've never heard of any socialist country that advocated for abolishing private property rights. Sweden, Norway, Switzerland, etc all respect private property rights... and before you say it no these countries aren't purely socialist nations. I'm just reiterating exactly what I said I know of no socialist that haa argued that one shouldn't have the rights to prosper from one's intellectual property.

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dingbat (Feb 9, 2019 - 4:03 pm)

Sweden, Norway, Switzerland, etc. are not socialist countries, not in the least bit.
They do all have strong social safety nets, but that's very different

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onefortheteam (Feb 9, 2019 - 4:14 pm)

yeah that's what I said. Agree.

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onefortheteam (Feb 8, 2019 - 1:30 pm)

Good on them. They made their riches creating intellectual property not screwing gullible people out of a lot of money by setting up scam universities or being gifted it from their oligarch fathers

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actionbronson (Feb 8, 2019 - 2:05 pm)

Will never understand his appeal...

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wutwutwut (Feb 8, 2019 - 4:24 pm)

http://www.tribtown.com/2019/02/08/police_man_broke_into_john_mellencamps_house_to_arrest_him/


Told cops he broke in to arrest Mellencamp for supporting the government....

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schopenhauerx99 (Feb 10, 2019 - 12:45 pm)

John Lennon was different from his persona: money obsessed, beat his first wife, and neglected his first born. When fellow musicians pointed out his apparent hypocrisy of the lyrics of "Imagine" with his lifestyle and attitude toward money, he allegedly responded "It's just a song!"

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kenco (Feb 10, 2019 - 2:35 pm)

glad he got shot

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schopenhauerx99 (Feb 10, 2019 - 3:02 pm)

Murdering him made him a cult.

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