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US to Begin Withdrawing Troops from Syria

https://www-m.cnn.com/2018/12/19/po litics/us-syria-withdrawa anotherjd12/19/18
Will doing this make Putin's life easier? That's probably pr onefortheteam12/19/18
Dude seriously, who cares. Guarantee that Putin doesn’t wa jorgedeclaro12/19/18
Who cares if it does? At least our soldiers won't be killing anotherjd12/19/18
Obviously you care as I just asked a question and you automa onefortheteam12/19/18
Just like own the libs isn’t a coherent political platform jorgedeclaro12/19/18
I never proposed a platform, I asked a question. I did not o onefortheteam12/19/18
I would have thought someone who fought in both Gulf Wars an sexbro12/19/18
Cool story. Today I learned that not only did I serve in the onefortheteam12/19/18
My bad. Maybe I've mistaken you for causanortis/corneroffice sexbro12/19/18
Triggered much? Good, you've made my day. onefortheteam12/19/18
Do you have a coherent take on US troops leaving Syria, or a sexbro12/19/18
We went in and recruited Kurdish fighters to help us. Leavin therewillbeblood12/19/18
We've been abandoning Kurdish allies for decades. Were you c sexbro12/19/18
Yes. therewillbeblood12/19/18
Why would I have a position on Syria? I've said repeatedly I onefortheteam12/19/18
And that position is silly when Trump was the person who sen jorgedeclaro12/19/18
Are you hanging American involvement in Syria on trump? That anotherjd12/19/18
And trump tripled the number. 2,000 troops isn’t the end o jorgedeclaro12/19/18
Obama got us in there in the first place it's right there fo anotherjd12/19/18
Bush had us invade Iraq to begin with and start the whole me trickydick12/19/18
How far to you want to go back? W? Ok fine. Hillary voted anotherjd12/19/18
Checkmate brokelawyer12/19/18
MSM so mad. They want endless war. Would be funny if it were serbexo12/19/18
Good. Leave it to Assad and the Russians. midlaw12/19/18
What in the world were we ever doing there in the first plac exnite12/19/18
Making sure our foothold in middle east is secure. The sp bangbus12/19/18
Yes, but I’m not certain the fremen have actually been def dupednontraditional12/19/18
Doing it to please Putin is not okay, and that seems to be t frida212/19/18
Frida it's so brave of you ask others to kill as well as ris anotherjd12/19/18
You appear to be a drama queen. frida212/19/18
You're a dilettante. Go play in the sand some more with your anotherjd12/19/18
I do not know what to think here. Trump says pull them out, drewprocess12/19/18
Stay out of other people’s Civil Wars, every dummy knows t exnite12/19/18
It is difficult when two generally reliable heuristics point midlaw12/19/18
This is the right move, even if it will likely have negative trickydick12/19/18
Yes whoever cheered on Iraq and is now a dove has no core be anotherjd12/19/18
I didn't say anything like that. I just don't think doing it frida212/19/18
We also found out about this today: https://twitter.com/N frida212/19/18
Why the change over a period of 8 days, without GOP Senators frida212/19/18
Oh well. Sick of everyone deferring to generals as infallibl anotherjd12/19/18
Didn't take long for "Troops will be pulled out by 1/18/19" whatnext01/06/19
Now the liberals have to go back to complaining about US tro brokelawyer01/06/19
Where's our drama queen anotherjd? We need to her his whi bangbus01/06/19
The MIC wins again. You morons want perpetual war go ahead n anotherjd01/06/19
You sound like a goth chick at hot topic bangbus01/07/19
memo to revisionist Trumpklumpfs sharing their pearls of all backfromthedead01/06/19

anotherjd (Dec 19, 2018 - 12:05 pm)

https://www-m.cnn.com/2018/12/19/politics/us-syria-withdrawal/index.html

Good news. A small defeat for the military industrial complex.

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onefortheteam (Dec 19, 2018 - 12:15 pm)

Will doing this make Putin's life easier? That's probably pretty important to the Trump administration. I haven't been paying attention

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jorgedeclaro (Dec 19, 2018 - 12:30 pm)

Dude seriously, who cares. Guarantee that Putin doesn’t want the U.S. to occupy the Ukraine, Turkey and Georgia. Doesn’t mean we should do it to spite Russia. The U.S. needs to stay out of Syria. Not only does the U.S. suck at nation building, but there are no good outcomes that are apparent. Let’s not waste our money or human capital mucking around in a sh!thole.

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anotherjd (Dec 19, 2018 - 12:30 pm)

Who cares if it does? At least our soldiers won't be killing and dying for nothing.

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onefortheteam (Dec 19, 2018 - 2:27 pm)

Obviously you care as I just asked a question and you automatically became defensive. I admitted I have not been following the situation closely. I think it's pretty obvious that the answer to my question is yes this will make Putin's life easier.

thanks. It's good to know Putin's investment in the Trump administration is paying off.

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jorgedeclaro (Dec 19, 2018 - 2:46 pm)

Just like own the libs isn’t a coherent political platform, neither is own the Russians a coherent foreign policy platform.

Trump was the one who sent most of the troops there anyway.

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onefortheteam (Dec 19, 2018 - 2:51 pm)

I never proposed a platform, I asked a question. I did not oppose or approve of the decision. If I took any position at all it was that I think it's a good thing that Putin's investment in the Trump administration was not squandered, nothing tears me up more than the misallocation of government resources.

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sexbro (Dec 19, 2018 - 2:56 pm)

I would have thought someone who fought in both Gulf Wars and who has often stated his opposition to US warmongering would applaud bringing US troops home from the Middle East. Perhaps I've mistaken you for another poster.

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onefortheteam (Dec 19, 2018 - 2:59 pm)

Cool story. Today I learned that not only did I serve in the military but I served in the Korean war or whatever.

Where are my medals?

Seems like I touched a nerve asking my question.

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sexbro (Dec 19, 2018 - 3:00 pm)

My bad. Maybe I've mistaken you for causanortis/corneroffice.

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onefortheteam (Dec 19, 2018 - 3:00 pm)

Triggered much?

Good, you've made my day.

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sexbro (Dec 19, 2018 - 3:17 pm)

Do you have a coherent take on US troops leaving Syria, or are you just gonna "muh Putin" like backoffmymeds?

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therewillbeblood (Dec 19, 2018 - 3:20 pm)

We went in and recruited Kurdish fighters to help us. Leaving kind of stabs them in the back.

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sexbro (Dec 19, 2018 - 3:30 pm)

We've been abandoning Kurdish allies for decades. Were you concerned about this before January 2017?

https://www.bbc.com/news/in-pictures-35967389

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therewillbeblood (Dec 19, 2018 - 4:16 pm)

Yes.

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onefortheteam (Dec 19, 2018 - 3:37 pm)

Why would I have a position on Syria? I've said repeatedly I have not been following the situation very closely. What you Trump catamites want is someone to argue against troop descalation in Syria. That's not the discussion I'm having at all, my discussion is more along the lines of "hey look Putin's bought man is holding up his end of the bargain. Well that's just swell. Quid pro quo."



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jorgedeclaro (Dec 19, 2018 - 3:17 pm)

And that position is silly when Trump was the person who sent most of those troops there. If this were for Putin’s benefit, why would he send troops there in the first place?

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anotherjd (Dec 19, 2018 - 3:31 pm)

Are you hanging American involvement in Syria on trump? That would be Barack Obama.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/American-led_intervention_in_the_Syrian_Civil_War

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jorgedeclaro (Dec 19, 2018 - 4:22 pm)

And trump tripled the number. 2,000 troops isn’t the end of the world, but it’s indicative of a long-running problem of the US that well predates Obama and Trump. Hell, GWB ran on a platform against using military force to nation build all of the world’s problems (didn’t work out, obviously).

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anotherjd (Dec 19, 2018 - 4:26 pm)

Obama got us in there in the first place it's right there for you to read. Yes trump was dumb to escalate but now he's trying to get out. People should actually support him on this one.

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trickydick (Dec 19, 2018 - 5:20 pm)

Bush had us invade Iraq to begin with and start the whole mess. On top of that, Obama was condemned by the right for withdrawing troops from Iraq without first stabilizing the region. Trump may have inherited some of this mess, but pinning the ultimate responsibility on Obama is ridiculous.

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anotherjd (Dec 19, 2018 - 8:26 pm)

How far to you want to go back? W? Ok fine.

Hillary voted for that war.

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brokelawyer (Dec 19, 2018 - 10:31 pm)

Checkmate

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serbexo (Dec 19, 2018 - 12:46 pm)

MSM so mad. They want endless war. Would be funny if it weren’t so sad.



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midlaw (Dec 19, 2018 - 12:59 pm)

Good. Leave it to Assad and the Russians.

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exnite (Dec 19, 2018 - 1:02 pm)

What in the world were we ever doing there in the first place? Thanks a lot Obama, thanks Israel!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American-led_intervention_in_the_Syrian_Civil_War

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bangbus (Dec 19, 2018 - 2:40 pm)

Making sure our foothold in middle east is secure.

The spice must flow.

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dupednontraditional (Dec 19, 2018 - 4:21 pm)

Yes, but I’m not certain the fremen have actually been defeated, and our relationship with the Harkonnen is dicey at best...

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frida2 (Dec 19, 2018 - 3:18 pm)

Doing it to please Putin is not okay, and that seems to be the motive. Plus, no one in the government knew about this in advance so they didn't have a chance to discuss pros and cons and make a plan. A bunch of GOP senators seem mad about it. I guess we'll see how it plays out.

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anotherjd (Dec 19, 2018 - 3:34 pm)

Frida it's so brave of you ask others to kill as well as risk their lives to stop Putin. Please go volunteer in the army otherwise you just appear to be a hypocrite.

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frida2 (Dec 19, 2018 - 4:15 pm)

You appear to be a drama queen.

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anotherjd (Dec 19, 2018 - 4:17 pm)

You're a dilettante. Go play in the sand some more with your fellow bourgeois liberal friends.

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drewprocess (Dec 19, 2018 - 3:44 pm)

I do not know what to think here. Trump says pull them out, Lindsay Graham says keep them there. These people are usually both wrong about everything, but it seems they cannot both be wrong here.

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exnite (Dec 19, 2018 - 4:28 pm)

Stay out of other people’s Civil Wars, every dummy knows that

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midlaw (Dec 19, 2018 - 4:36 pm)

It is difficult when two generally reliable heuristics point in different directions.

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trickydick (Dec 19, 2018 - 5:16 pm)

This is the right move, even if it will likely have negative long term consequences for the region.

But it’s ridiculous for Trump supporters to portray themselves as the anti-war movement after right wingers spent years defending Bush’s decision to invade and occupy the Middle East while liberals spent years protesting American military involvement in the region.

It makes for some mind boggling hypocrisy to see them cheer on Trump’s decision to withdraw troops from Syria while ISIS remains active in the region when they condemned Obama for withdrawing from Iraq without “getting the job done” and then simultaneously condemned Obama for expanding US military involvement in the Middle East.

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anotherjd (Dec 19, 2018 - 5:51 pm)

Yes whoever cheered on Iraq and is now a dove has no core beliefs. That's probably most people. I mean, liberals like Frida now want an indefinite military presence in the middle east for no reason than Trump wants us out of Syria.

But Hillary was always a hawk so maybe the antiwar left isn't really a thing anymore.

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frida2 (Dec 19, 2018 - 6:33 pm)

I didn't say anything like that. I just don't think doing it for Putin is okay. From what we know, trump just woke up today and decided this without warning. And on the same day sanctions are stopping. I'm not pro having our troops there, I just don't trust the motives of anything the orange one does.

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frida2 (Dec 19, 2018 - 6:49 pm)

We also found out about this today:

https://twitter.com/NatashaBertrand/status/1075455024921223168?s=19

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frida2 (Dec 19, 2018 - 6:54 pm)

Why the change over a period of 8 days, without GOP Senators knowing about it? Just weird.

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1075494858591211520?s=19

Ben Sasse: "Eight days ago the Administration called a hypothetical pullout 'reckless.' Today, we're leaving. The President's generals have no idea where this weak decision came from ,,, A lot of American allies will be slaughtered if this retreat is implemented."

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anotherjd (Dec 19, 2018 - 8:23 pm)

Oh well. Sick of everyone deferring to generals as infallible.

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whatnext (Jan 6, 2019 - 1:00 pm)

Didn't take long for "Troops will be pulled out by 1/18/19" to turn into "troops will actually be there indefinitely".

https://twitter.com/feliciasonmez/status/1081970393366347777

He'll just lie to his supporters that he pulled troops out of Syria and they'll believe him.

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brokelawyer (Jan 6, 2019 - 1:24 pm)

Now the liberals have to go back to complaining about US troops being deployed in The Middle East? Whiplash!

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bangbus (Jan 6, 2019 - 2:35 pm)

Where's our drama queen anotherjd?

We need to her his whining on this matter

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anotherjd (Jan 6, 2019 - 2:49 pm)

The MIC wins again. You morons want perpetual war go ahead not like I'm the one killing and dying. Just more brown people.

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bangbus (Jan 7, 2019 - 5:27 am)

You sound like a goth chick at hot topic

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backfromthedead (Jan 6, 2019 - 3:35 pm)

memo to revisionist Trumpklumpfs sharing their pearls of all knowing wisdom with the great unwashed masses here on JDU -- shaddup already -- y'all about as astute as a sack of turnips, anywho - Bush vs Gore 2000, SCOTUS intercedes -- (now acknowledged by SCOTUS as embarrassingly stupid**) in a Florida state's rights issue that had nothing to do with any constitutional questions, overturns Florida Supreme Court decision to allow a recount and basically installed George W Bush as president, then we get TWO "Fox News / Repub championed wars" that ended up costing north of 6 trillion dollars and lasted a combined total of almost 30 years, resulting in the Middle East blowing up, destabilizing the world blah blah blah -- Colin Powell warned Bush back then in the beginning "You break it you own it" but Trumpklumpfs say hey it's all the libs fault and they're screwing it up today while our man Trump is trying to fix EVERYTHING singlehandedly "Cause he's the Fix It Man and if anyone can it's the Fix It Man, yes the Fix It Man can"
** and then there was this:
At the annual meeting of the American Law Institute, Justice Stevens sounded off on Bush v. Gore—the decision that turned the White House over to George W. Bush.
Naturally he didn’t put it that way, but he did call the majority decision “misleading” and criticized the “absence of any coherent rationale supporting the opinion’s reliance on the equal protection clause.”



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