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Which 2020-aspiring Dems Do You Think Are "DOA" (And Why)??

My picks: Eliz. Warren. "Pocahontas" tag is funny as hel catwoman33302/02/19
The DNCe has not yet proffered their real candidate. They wi plumber02/02/19
Plumber, I've asked you before and you've never asked me (as therewillbeblood02/03/19
Yes. People (libs as well) started calling him "King Andy" a plumber02/04/19
Gillibrand seems to have no original ideas, and has flipped 2tierreality02/03/19
Castro was HUD secretary? Lol. Maybe he watched “designa persius02/03/19
Castro's bid is even more pointless than Gabbard's or Schult therewillbeblood02/03/19
You forgot Hillary 2.0. Also Tulsi Gabbard. She was ant an schopenhauerx9902/03/19
All of them are dead in the water. The party devoted too mu madathofstra02/03/19
What the hell would that have done? Kavanaugh was getting in therewillbeblood02/03/19
young, brown, female is what it will be kenco02/03/19
and socialist exnite02/03/19
Elizabeth Warren is completely DOA. She has no broad appeal brokelawyer02/03/19
I like Warren but she can't turn off professor mode. My f therewillbeblood02/03/19
"My favorite is Gillibrand. Smart, savvy, and she can give t plumber02/04/19
Unless they’re women in which case they largely hate Trump therewillbeblood02/04/19
"No, Elizabeth Warren doesn't have racist art in her kitchen backfromthedead02/03/19
Kamala Harris - never was a real mom No way in hell the fir outclassed02/04/19
shaddup backfromthedead02/04/19
Search your feelings...you know it to be true. outclassed02/04/19
you wanna have my baby? backfromthedead02/04/19
Yes outclassed02/04/19
. . . backfromthedead02/04/19
... outclassed02/04/19
Julian Castro never stood a chance. Howard Schultz neither dingbat02/04/19
This should be obvious, but who will be the Democratic nomin frida202/04/19
one thing for sure if I ever hear a Trumpklumpf criticize so backfromthedead02/04/19
Calling it now: it will be Kamala for president and Sherrod soiled_nappies02/04/19
I was just tinking about it and came to edit my comment abov dingbat02/04/19
Biden's a great sidekick, but I don't think he'd be competen schopenhauerx9902/04/19
Exactly, except he's a real progressive and he's not too old soiled_nappies02/04/19
I have the state of the union on mute but Harris and Brown a frida202/05/19
Gavin Newsom? I think some of these candidates are testing schopenhauerx9902/04/19
Not Gavin. He's from California and he's a White dude who ch soiled_nappies02/04/19
Not Gavin. He's from California and he's a White dude who ch soiled_nappies02/04/19
Way back when, candidates were selected for geographic appea toooldtocare02/04/19
Kirsten Gillibrand and any aspirant who currently holds the cacrimdefense02/04/19
Sherrod Brown was willing to call trump a racist, and not da frida202/04/19
Is calling people racist what passes for courage in today's anotherjd02/04/19
I dislike Kamala Harris but I think she will be the nominee. employmentlawyer02/04/19
If Harris can have intimate relationships with every male vo anotherjd02/04/19
King Andy is now blaming Trump for his budget shortfall. Th david6198302/04/19
I think Beto O'Rourke will have a shot at becoming the "cons catwoman33302/04/19
Beto may be the only one Trump can’t easily clown from wha persius02/04/19
Betos background is weird to me. Didn't he graduate from Co david6198302/05/19
Instead of a nanny a “manny”. I know a guy that jus persius02/05/19
The four I have as contenders are Biden, Sanders, Beto and B jorgedeclaro02/05/19
While I’m inclined to agree, note that none of the four ar brokelawyer02/05/19
Booker was accused of groping at a party or something; Berni schopenhauerx9902/05/19
All it takes is a woman with a story, and then it’s game o brokelawyer02/05/19
Getting back to the original q: Warren, with her bar card, i toooldtocare02/06/19

catwoman333 (Feb 2, 2019 - 2:12 am)

My picks:

Eliz. Warren. "Pocahontas" tag is funny as hell, drives her nuts, and sticks like crazy glue. No matter what she does/says (or doesn't do/say), she just can't live it down. Also, her ham-handed, ever-changing responses kill her credibility, remind people of Hillary. Iowa will be her "Little Big Horn".

Joe Biden. Too old. Too white. Gaffe machine. Too Establishment/Corp./Wall St. And there's that Anita Hill/Clarence Thomas "thingy" and...oh...that "youthful indiscretion" plagiarism scandal in law school. Also, his surviving son's affair with grieving widow after Beau died. (Eww!! factor.)

Kamala Harris. Too soon. In senate for less than 2 years. ZERO senate achievements to date.

Cory Booker. See Kamala Harris.

Bernie Sanders. See Joe Biden. Also, tanking in flames after paying $$ to settle sexual harassment claims he denied knowing anything about. He also angered supporters by prematurely caving to Hillary Machine instead of fighting for the nomination. Bernie's TOAST.

Starbucks CEO, "What's His Name"?? (likely will run as Indep. but who really knows?) Did big media roll-out announcement and we STILL can't remember his name. That about says it all. Also rich white old guys pushing 70 are about as popular this year in the Dem. Party as land-line telephones.

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plumber (Feb 2, 2019 - 8:41 am)

The DNCe has not yet proffered their real candidate. They will anoint King Andy in another month and a half.

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therewillbeblood (Feb 3, 2019 - 6:33 pm)

Plumber, I've asked you before and you've never asked me (as far as I can tell). What's with the "King Andy" thing? I mean, does Cuomo do something that other NY governors didn't?

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plumber (Feb 4, 2019 - 8:34 am)

Yes. People (libs as well) started calling him "King Andy" after he shut down the Moreland Commission he created to investigate his political enemies. King Andy shut it down because the Commission started to investigate him. King Andy believes he is the “supreme ruler” of NY State and above the law. I hope you like him because he is going to be your candidate.

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2tierreality (Feb 3, 2019 - 1:42 pm)

Gillibrand seems to have no original ideas, and has flipped from being a conservative Democrat to a liberal Democrat. The Hillbots seem to have attached themselves to Kamala Harris, so you have to wonder what Gillibrand has to offer?

Julian Castro did his best Obama impression at his announcement, but there's nothing remarkable about him. No one has ever parlayed HUD secretary into the Presidency.

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persius (Feb 3, 2019 - 3:05 pm)

Castro was HUD secretary? Lol. Maybe he watched “designated survivor” and wants to be Tom Kirkman.

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therewillbeblood (Feb 3, 2019 - 11:15 pm)

Castro's bid is even more pointless than Gabbard's or Schultz's.

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schopenhauerx99 (Feb 3, 2019 - 4:54 pm)

You forgot Hillary 2.0. Also Tulsi Gabbard. She was ant anti gay activist years ago and has little name recognition or experience.

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madathofstra (Feb 3, 2019 - 5:07 pm)

All of them are dead in the water. The party devoted too much attention to fringe issues. Case in point: back when Kavanaugh was being considered, before the sex stuff came out, NPR did a piece about why he was a bad pick. They chose to focus on him voting against allowing a 17 year old illegal immigrant at a detention center to have an abortion. They interviewed multiple people about it, including the 17 year old, who explained why she wanted the abortion. This portion went on for a good 20 minutes. In passing, as an afterthought, they mentioned that he also voted in favor of employers banning employees from putting pro union magnets on their own personal cars. WTF? This is why the dems will lose.

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therewillbeblood (Feb 3, 2019 - 6:35 pm)

What the hell would that have done? Kavanaugh was getting in, this way they trashed his reputation and sunk the GOP even further with suburban white moms.

The only thing I think they should have done more is keep harping on the fact that Kavanaugh got caught several times blatantly lying during his testimony. That wouldn't have changed the vote, though they could lay the groundwork for later impeachment if they ever got the votes.

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kenco (Feb 3, 2019 - 6:39 pm)

young, brown, female is what it will be

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exnite (Feb 3, 2019 - 6:55 pm)

and socialist

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brokelawyer (Feb 3, 2019 - 7:45 pm)

Elizabeth Warren is completely DOA. She has no broad appeal at all. Her constituency appears to be Harvard latte-sippers.

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therewillbeblood (Feb 3, 2019 - 11:01 pm)

I like Warren but she can't turn off professor mode.

My favorite is Gillibrand. Smart, savvy, and she can give the misogynists who voted for Trump in 2016 a way to claim they're not misogynists.

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plumber (Feb 4, 2019 - 8:52 am)

"My favorite is Gillibrand. Smart, savvy, and she can give the misogynists who voted for Trump in 2016 a way to claim they're not misogynists."

Trump voters who have sons will all run right out and vote for the opportunistic, Pocahontas wannabe.

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therewillbeblood (Feb 4, 2019 - 12:33 pm)

Unless they’re women in which case they largely hate Trump. Plus his dementia will probably get more and more noticeable before 2020.

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backfromthedead (Feb 3, 2019 - 11:54 pm)

"No, Elizabeth Warren doesn't have racist art in her kitchen"
sorry Trumpklumpfs but this election cycle we're on to your scumbag tricks and we're dealing with them as soon as they show up, NO FREE RIDES THIS TIME AROUND SUCKERS and thank you Facebook "Rightwing Watch Brigade" for being ever vigilant, keep up the good work --

"Right-wing Twitter accounts are pushing around a conspiracy theory that Elizabeth has a racist artifact in her kitchen," the website says. "The object clearly does not match the inset, and you can see for yourself in the photos below that the object is actually a Grecian urn."
https://www.politifact.com/facebook-fact-checks/statements/2019/jan/18/viral-image/no-elizabeth-warren-doesnt-have-racist-art-her-kit/

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outclassed (Feb 4, 2019 - 12:07 am)

Kamala Harris - never was a real mom
No way in hell the first female prez will be a childless prog

(and those already college age stepkids don’t count)

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backfromthedead (Feb 4, 2019 - 12:09 am)

shaddup

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outclassed (Feb 4, 2019 - 12:31 am)

Search your feelings...you know it to be true.

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backfromthedead (Feb 4, 2019 - 1:18 am)

you wanna have my baby?

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outclassed (Feb 4, 2019 - 8:12 am)

Yes

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backfromthedead (Feb 4, 2019 - 9:14 am)

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outclassed (Feb 4, 2019 - 6:35 pm)

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dingbat (Feb 4, 2019 - 9:01 am)

Julian Castro never stood a chance. Howard Schultz neither
Warren missed her chance.

Kamala Harris and Tulsi Gabbard are the best candidates on the far left, though Kamala may be too far off and Tulsi has that whole anti-gay thing dragging her down. Gillibrand is the best centrist (Sherrod Brown could have a shot, but will probably be drowned out by everyone else)
Cory booker as dark horse. His politics are more centrist than you’d think, and his personal demographics (black-ish, gay-ish) can cut both ways. He’d probably be a shoe-in with a bit more distance from Obama’s presidency, but for now carries all the baggage and none of the benefits of being not quite Obama 2.0

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frida2 (Feb 4, 2019 - 9:12 am)

This should be obvious, but who will be the Democratic nominee will be determined by people who vote in the Democratic primary. My guess is that a lot of people here are not Democratic primary voters.

I think it will be a female candidate. Right now Kamala is ahead of the female candidates, but that could change. The primaries are a year away. I also think we could see some of the male candidates committing to choosing female running mates during the debates.

There's just no denying the gender gap and Democrats have to embrace it.

56% of women voters lean or register Democrat, but 70% of millennial women voters lean or register Democrat. That's just such a huge gap. Also, I think you will see Democrats not running away from "identity politics" and refusing to consider that a negative phrase. I mean, come on, trump voters do identity politics more than anyone. Why deny it?

http://www.people-press.org/2018/03/20/1-trends-in-party-affiliation-among-demographic-groups/

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backfromthedead (Feb 4, 2019 - 9:21 am)

one thing for sure if I ever hear a Trumpklumpf criticize some Dem candidate's background / experience as being woefully lacking in the "ready to be president department", I'm just gonna say "Don't get me started bubba, you DON'T wanna go there"

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soiled_nappies (Feb 4, 2019 - 9:55 am)

Calling it now: it will be Kamala for president and Sherrod Brown as VP.

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dingbat (Feb 4, 2019 - 11:11 am)

I was just tinking about it and came to edit my comment above.

I think Sherrod Brown is the leading contender for VP. He's centrist, swing-state, midwest, "old white man". Basically, Biden 2.0

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schopenhauerx99 (Feb 4, 2019 - 11:54 am)

Biden's a great sidekick, but I don't think he'd be competent as an executive. He's a joke, and if the media wasn't obama's cult he would have been even more of one.

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soiled_nappies (Feb 4, 2019 - 12:30 pm)

Exactly, except he's a real progressive and he's not too old. And he can carry one or two midwestern states that Kamala can't carry.

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frida2 (Feb 5, 2019 - 9:41 pm)

I have the state of the union on mute but Harris and Brown are sitting together. Looking good.

https://twitter.com/JamieOGrady/status/1092976605847306241?s=19

https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1092975384948342785?s=19

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schopenhauerx99 (Feb 4, 2019 - 11:46 am)

Gavin Newsom? I think some of these candidates are testing the waters for a 2024 run.

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soiled_nappies (Feb 4, 2019 - 12:30 pm)

Not Gavin. He's from California and he's a White dude who cheats. No one outside California will vote for him and he has no name recognition.

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soiled_nappies (Feb 4, 2019 - 12:30 pm)

Not Gavin. He's from California and he's a White dude who cheats. No one outside California will vote for him and he has no name recognition.

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toooldtocare (Feb 4, 2019 - 11:51 am)

Way back when, candidates were selected for geographic appeal, as in what state(s) will they carry. That seems to be more important now than ever before, as twice since 2000 the candidate with fewer votes but more electoral college votes won.
But if the democrats were to do that, they'd need to nominate someone like Sherrod Brown, who really has no chance of getting past the first few primaries if he decides to run. Harris is from CA, which is a lock for the democrats, as are MA/NJ/NY. Should they be looking for an obscure candidate from a state where it was close in 2016, hoping it makes a difference in the electoral college?

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cacrimdefense (Feb 4, 2019 - 12:14 pm)

Kirsten Gillibrand and any aspirant who currently holds the title of Mayor. The latter b/c few will take them seriously, and the former b/c she's essentially Kamala Harris w/o the darker pigmentation.

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frida2 (Feb 4, 2019 - 1:01 pm)

Sherrod Brown was willing to call trump a racist, and not dance around it or talk about not knowing what's in his heart. That is a big plus for Sherrod Brown. He looks good in this interview.

https://twitter.com/resistbot/status/1092077838352764928?s=19

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anotherjd (Feb 4, 2019 - 3:31 pm)

Is calling people racist what passes for courage in today's Democratic party? What a joke.

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employmentlawyer (Feb 4, 2019 - 1:07 pm)

I dislike Kamala Harris but I think she will be the nominee.

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anotherjd (Feb 4, 2019 - 3:42 pm)

If Harris can have intimate relationships with every male voter I like her chances.

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david61983 (Feb 4, 2019 - 6:17 pm)

King Andy is now blaming Trump for his budget shortfall. That man is truly insufferable. I hope you Dems nominate him.

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catwoman333 (Feb 4, 2019 - 9:14 pm)

I think Beto O'Rourke will have a shot at becoming the "consensus" choice for the top of the ticket, when (if?) Dems are smart enough to realize this is probably going to be a "generational election" and that old white guys over 60 (Biden, Bernie, Blumenthal, Brown, Shultz, Kaine)--esp. ones with heavy ties to Wall St. banks/donors/$$--just won't inspire progressives, young voters, minorities to go to the polls.

Yes, Beto is white but, compared to those guys, his style is unique (compared to the others who cling to "establishment" politics) and he's an inspiring, scrappy, social media-saavy campaigner, and charismatic speaker who may have strong crossover appeal to independents and moderates who stayed home or voted 3P in 2016. He also probably has one of the best, already-established campaign organizations/networks, ready to hit the ground running if he gives the word.

At this early point, Gillibrand is probably the only viable female in the race. Very smart, articulate, MANY years of experience in national office, and no real history of blunders. Progressive purists have faulted her for being too conservative before her Senate election (when she was a upstate NY congresswoman, representing a conservative district), but that may be an asset in the general election as she touts crossover appeal to disenchanted GOP defector voters.

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persius (Feb 4, 2019 - 10:03 pm)

Beto may be the only one Trump can’t easily clown from what little I know about these candidates.

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david61983 (Feb 5, 2019 - 6:50 am)

Betos background is weird to me. Didn't he graduate from Columbia and then worked as a live in nanny for a few years for some rich family? What dude with any ivy league degree does that? Then he became depressed and moved to NYC and started moving furniture for a living? Strange background to me. Then there's his DUI and his also arrest for burglary for breaking into a warehouse.

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persius (Feb 5, 2019 - 11:55 am)

Instead of a nanny a “manny”.

I know a guy that just got offered a position like that. 6 figures, free guest house, weekends off - really not all that bad an offer. He is calling the position a “butler”, but it sounds like a cross between Kato Kalin and Charles in charge - more of a “manny.” He would have to give up his business so he is asking for a 3 year contract in case things don’t work out and sounds like the family will go for it.

People like educated people around their children so maybe an Ivy League degree makes sense. In the case of the guy I know he is a sharp, educated guy, but not sure of his degrees.

I have no idea on moving furniture. He doesn’t exactly look like He-man. Being arrested for breaking into a whatehouse is also a little peculiar.

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jorgedeclaro (Feb 5, 2019 - 3:22 pm)

The four I have as contenders are Biden, Sanders, Beto and Booker.

Sanders has residual appeal from his last go-around and has high favorability ratings among democrats. Additionally I think there will be a push for Kumbaya among the candidates to avoid strong inter-party attacks. This is what happened in 2008. Sanders will not play along as he is not a democrat and we’ve already seen shots against other candidates from his surrogates. He might have the Trump advantage of playing by different rules and rest of the candidates being slow off the mark to consolidate down and counterattack.

For Booker, I think he has the most appeal of the minority candidates. Trump has pushed him left but he’s got a good history of being down to earth and hands-on politician.

Beto is white Obama. He’s an excellent speaker and is very good at weaving acknowledgments of opposing views into his answers which gives the impression that he is moderated in his positions. If anything, I think the recency of Obama hurts him because voters have not had time to forget the style. Regardless, he is the best at delivering a speech with broad appeal.

Biden I like because he has the clearest path to an open lane. Nobody is running towards the middle at this point. Biden has the name recognition to own that lane while the other candidates eat each other alive trying to out-progressive the other candidates.

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brokelawyer (Feb 5, 2019 - 6:51 pm)

While I’m inclined to agree, note that none of the four are female. That conflicts with the current party line.

Also, I’m willing to bet that all four of them did/said something that a woman found offensive at some point in their lives.

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schopenhauerx99 (Feb 5, 2019 - 6:54 pm)

Booker was accused of groping at a party or something; Bernie allegedly wrote a rape fantasy essay in his earlier years; biden gets a little too touchy feely with females (there's video to confirm this). Don't know about beto.

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brokelawyer (Feb 5, 2019 - 8:16 pm)

All it takes is a woman with a story, and then it’s game over.

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toooldtocare (Feb 6, 2019 - 9:41 am)

Getting back to the original q: Warren, with her bar card, is now officially done.

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