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What's with Virginia democrat politicians?

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/po litics-news/virginia-atto toooldtocare02/06/19
Yeah, not to mention the below. I get that you’re mad and jorgedeclaro02/06/19
Maybe it’s a bad idea to idolize traitors that spilled blo whatnext02/06/19
Well, there’s always that. But what about idolizing Michae jorgedeclaro02/06/19
I think there should be a 'blackface' exception when competi onefortheteam02/06/19
They like macacas See former Gov George Allen exnite02/06/19
Wow, what a cluster. I guess the options here are for everyo brokelawyer02/06/19
Republicans appointed Mueller to investigate Trump, don't le onefortheteam02/06/19
All of this started when they talked about killing babies. doublefriedchicken02/06/19
This witch-hunt for the governor and Lt governor is stupid. eagleton02/06/19
Trump isn’t a witch hunt (at least not the Russia/money la midlaw02/06/19
Called the money laundering two years ago, ladies and gents. esquirewalletsmatter02/07/19
I remember. jeffm02/07/19
I am curious to ask the people here how many have dressed up drewprocess02/06/19
It wasn't real common but people did it some. In the 80s, "b doublefriedchicken02/06/19
Yep. Can't do this one any more, for example, even though t dupednontraditional02/06/19
I’m young so I don’t know beyond what I read. I think by jorgedeclaro02/06/19
So I don't get why this AG brought his story forth. Some wutwutwut02/06/19
Media reporting today that Northam just hired a "high-powere catwoman33302/06/19
Nah, you got that backwards. His accuser is now represented jorgedeclaro02/06/19
I thought Northam's strategy was to disappear from the face toooldtocare02/07/19
If dressing up as blackface is so bad, wait until dressing i jeffm02/07/19
So a Republican state senator from Virginia was the editor f jorgedeclaro02/07/19
I'm SHOCKED! What? No new BF picture allegations in the new catwoman33302/07/19

toooldtocare (Feb 6, 2019 - 12:19 pm)

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/virginia-attorney-general-admits-he-wore-blackface-n968391

So that's the gov/lt gov/ag; I think the order of succession now leads to the Speaker of the HOuse of Delegates-a republican, I think. What a way for the GOP to (potentially) take over the gov's mansion.

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jorgedeclaro (Feb 6, 2019 - 12:51 pm)

Yeah, not to mention the below. I get that you’re mad and don’t think you sexually assaulted this person. I would totally say this to my friends if I were in the same situation. But you can’t say that anywhere it has a chance to get back to the press.



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whatnext (Feb 6, 2019 - 12:53 pm)

Maybe it’s a bad idea to idolize traitors that spilled blood to preserve slavery.

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jorgedeclaro (Feb 6, 2019 - 1:12 pm)

Well, there’s always that. But what about idolizing Michael Jackson and your favorite rappers? Doesn’t seem as bad to me.

I proposed blackface amnesty. Democrats didn’t want to go for it. And this isn’t self-serving as I can say confidently that I have no blackface incidents in my past. Orangeface when I was an Oompa Loompa in the Willy Wonka play around second-ish grade, but no blackface.

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onefortheteam (Feb 6, 2019 - 1:10 pm)

I think there should be a 'blackface' exception when competing in a dance competition as Michael Jackson or Kurtis Blow. Those were some pretty class acts and any old white guy who can get anywhere in the ballpark is to be commended not publicly derailed.

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exnite (Feb 6, 2019 - 1:21 pm)

They like macacas

See former Gov George Allen

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brokelawyer (Feb 6, 2019 - 1:23 pm)

Wow, what a cluster. I guess the options here are for everyone to resign and allow the Republicans to take over the state (unthinkable), or stay in power but stop using Trump as a talking point because you are just as sleazy as he is (also unthinkable).

The third option would be to stop ridiculous witch hunts over silly past behavior that has no bearing on current policy choices. But I don’t think that’s possible in the current climate.

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onefortheteam (Feb 6, 2019 - 1:28 pm)

Republicans appointed Mueller to investigate Trump, don't let facts get in the way

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doublefriedchicken (Feb 6, 2019 - 1:55 pm)

All of this started when they talked about killing babies. Karma?

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eagleton (Feb 6, 2019 - 1:57 pm)

This witch-hunt for the governor and Lt governor is stupid. Witch-hunt for Kavanaugh was stupid. Witch-hunt for trump is stupid. All stupid

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midlaw (Feb 6, 2019 - 3:09 pm)

Trump isn’t a witch hunt (at least not the Russia/money laundering part of it), but otherwise yeah. Collecting scalps for decades-old transgressions is stupid.

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esquirewalletsmatter (Feb 7, 2019 - 7:04 am)

Called the money laundering two years ago, ladies and gents. Never forget.

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jeffm (Feb 7, 2019 - 9:59 am)

I remember.

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drewprocess (Feb 6, 2019 - 2:09 pm)

I am curious to ask the people here how many have dressed up in blackface at one point in their lives? I would have thought this was a rather unusual thing, but I am surprised at how often this specific thing is coming up now.

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doublefriedchicken (Feb 6, 2019 - 2:25 pm)

It wasn't real common but people did it some. In the 80s, "blackface" was dressing up as a generic black dude - especially with exaggerated features like big lips. A costume, like Michael Jackson, wasn't considered blackface.

I don't remember anyone being upset about it. Of course, once the rules change you have to live by the rules of now and not what anyone in the 80s was thinking. I used to have a confederate flag hanging up - it just meant you were from the South.

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dupednontraditional (Feb 6, 2019 - 3:01 pm)

Yep. Can't do this one any more, for example, even though the message in the film is "current."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soul_Man_(film)

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jorgedeclaro (Feb 6, 2019 - 3:35 pm)

I’m young so I don’t know beyond what I read. I think by the 1980s it was clear you shouldn’t dress up in blackface for the purpose of looking like a minstrel, at least in the United States. But I’m not sure that going to Halloween parties as black characters was considered the same level of offense. I think in the early 2000s is when you started to see the real crack down on this and I think a lot of college age students thought it was ridiculous.
https://www.thefire.org/offensive-halloween-costumes-and-censorship/
It would have been one or two years before my time, but I do remember seeing a picture of an alumni of my fraternity who went to a Halloween party as Latrell Sprewell. We seemed to recognize that could be a problem for him in the future. But I remember seeing plenty of girls go to Halloween parties dresses as Indians and we didn’t think twice, and that’s going to be a huge problem 20-30 years from now. There were also gangsters and hos parties, but I don’t believe there was blackface at any of them. I’m sure those pictures won’t be great in the future but might not be as incindiary as blackface photos.

Edit: Oh crap. One of the fraternities dresses up in grass skirts and paint to sing to the sororities for one of their parties. They are screwed.

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wutwutwut (Feb 6, 2019 - 3:41 pm)

So I don't get why this AG brought his story forth.

Some kind of 4-D chess where the hint is, "Hey, if you force out my buddy the gov, and the lt.gov falls on #metoo, then I'll fall owing to my own 80s party garb, then we be stuck with the repubs!" ?

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catwoman333 (Feb 6, 2019 - 10:53 pm)

Media reporting today that Northam just hired a "high-powered PR firm" to help him lie more convincingly and spin (read: BS) his way out of forced resignation. $100 says he will bury the expense in some obscure, hidden budget line item, thus forcing VA taxpayers to foot the tab. And Lt. Gov. Fairfax just hired Katz Marshall & Banks, the law firm that "represented"--IMO incompetently--Christine Blasey Ford during the Kavanaugh hearings.

LOVE the chutzpah of these politicians. ROFL

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jorgedeclaro (Feb 6, 2019 - 11:58 pm)

Nah, you got that backwards. His accuser is now represented by Katz who represented Ford (Ford pro bono, don’t know about Tyson). Fairfax hired Kavanaugh’s Attorney from the hearings.

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toooldtocare (Feb 7, 2019 - 9:42 am)

I thought Northam's strategy was to disappear from the face of the Earth and hope nobody noticed. That, and maybe become an independent.

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jeffm (Feb 7, 2019 - 10:02 am)

If dressing up as blackface is so bad, wait until dressing in drag will get you banished from society. Could we possibly go there as well, despite all the sexual confusion these days?

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jorgedeclaro (Feb 7, 2019 - 3:23 pm)

So a Republican state senator from Virginia was the editor for the 1968 VMI yearbook. He himself did not appear in blackface but there is tons of racism and blackface in the yearbook. Is that the same? I don’t feel like that’s the same. Plus in 1968 we were knee deep in the civil rights struggle. Thats basically every white person in the south.

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catwoman333 (Feb 7, 2019 - 10:54 pm)

I'm SHOCKED! What? No new BF picture allegations in the news today??

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